[developers] [afuchs at franz.com: Re: [spr30362] bug using climxm]

Stephan Oepen oe at ifi.uio.no
Tue Nov 13 15:12:25 CET 2007

fyi; as if they were seriously working on our CLIM problems!

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To: bond at ieee.org
Cc: support at franz.com, layer at franz.com, oe at ifi.uio.no, cnorvell at franz.com,
    afuchs at franz.com, wyung at franz.com
Subject: Re: [developers] [spr30362] bug using climxm 
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:48:04 -0800
From: Andreas Fuchs <afuchs at franz.com>

Hi Francis,

Francis Bond <fcbond at gmail.com> wrote:
> Another month has passed.  Has there been any progress at all?
> Can you give us some indication of when you think there may a fix available?
> This month, this year, next year?

Sorry for the lack of progress reports from me. There has indeed been
progress, but the project to get working international character support
in CLIM/motif is not done yet. Here's where we are right now.

So far, we've identified a few areas that have problems in CLIM/motif;
these are:

* Input/output on gadgets: this works now, provided a supported locale
  is used.  

* Input on CLIM stream panes: I've been working on this for most of last
  month, and am happy to report that at input of international
  characters (using the compose facility in X) mosty works now. There is
  no composition feedback yet, which would be nice.

* Output on CLIM stream panes: CLIM/motif includes a "wnn" facility to
  support Japanese characters specifically. Unfortunately, it seems to
  prohibit support for other non-ASCII characters, so I've been removing
  it and replacing it with a more general facility to support non-ASCII
  output. This part is not done yet.

Also, there's the problem of CLIM/postscript support for international
characters. This is not directly related to Motif, so I left it out of
the above list. Unfortunately, PostScript doesn't really support
multibyte-encoded characters at all; one possibility would be to add PDF
output support to CLIM, as PDF is a lot saner in this regard.

I've given the Motif-related points priority over PostScript support for
international characters.

As for a time frame, it will take until the end of November to get a
version out that is usable.

Thanks for our patience in this,

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