[developers] Partial success with unicode fonts

Berthold Crysmann crysmann at ifk.uni-bonn.de
Wed Mar 18 21:38:37 CET 2009

On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 16:58 +0100, Stephan Oepen wrote:
> hi berthold,
> i am glad you are helping us to push international character support
> (even) further.  the LUI issues are not surprising: yzlui has partial
> UniCode support only (using original X11 primities), and pangolui is
> using a state-of-the-art font engine for display but not for geometry
> and layout decisions.  --- incidentally, a week or so ago we received
> the pangolui sources from pavel (who, i believe, is no longer working
> on it); i was planning to check with woodley (the original developer)
> to see whether he had the time and interest to work on a merger.  but
> that could take some time to play out, either way.

> the issues you describe in non-LUI windows, i am pretty sure, are not
> at the level of LKB code but inside the CLIM back-end.  i believe the
> CLIM updates we saw in 2008 (in response to our earlier bug reports)
> are exactly on aspects that fail to work for you: font selection for
> a given encoding and UniCode plane.  i am actually optimistic it will 
> be worth the effort filing a bug report with franz, and working with
> their CLIM maintainer (andreas fuchs).  i think this should be filed
> as a follow-up to earlier bug reports [spr30362] and [spr30570].  it
> may be that andreas will ask for more details or test cases, but from
> my experience in the past he has often been able to diagnose issues
> remotely, based purely on observed behavior and knowledge about CLIM
> internals.  it is definitely worth a shot.  and many of us are still
> paying for CLIM as a product, so franz better continue to offer some
> level of support :-).
> could you prepare a bug report, based on your earlier emails, and copy
> the original list of recipients on the earlier thread (which, i think,
> included at least ann, francis, and me; at times also `developers')?

Certainly. What would be needed in addition to the description I already
gave earlier? I could provide the font files, some screen shots of
working and buggy behaviour. Anything else? Perhaps the function call
for setting bold? 



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