[developers] Fwd: Lkb topmenu

John Carroll J.A.Carroll at sussex.ac.uk
Tue Jan 5 23:08:12 CET 2016

Dear John,

I don't know whether you received the reply below from Ann Copestake. I used to run the LKB in Macintosh CL with native OSX graphics, but have never tried it with McCLIM.

My best guess about this error is that McCLIM requires the name-and-options following a :command-table option in calls to define-application-frame to be a list rather than allowing it to be just a symbol. So in topmenu.lsp try replacing

(:command-table lkb-top-command-table)


(:command-table (lkb-top-command-table))

This is just a guess, and further than that I'm afraid I can't help since I've never used McCLIM and I'm not an expert on CLIM.


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Ann Copestake <aac10 at cl.cam.ac.uk>
> Date: 3 January 2016 17:25:41 GMT
> To: <developers at delph-in.net>
> Subject: Re: [developers] Lkb topmenu
> Hi,
> I'm afraid I gave up on getting a version working with McCLIM, and I suspect nobody else has tried, though I hope anyone who has will chip in with experiences.  I see that you have already emailed the McCLIM list.  It looks like there's a different interpretation of desired behaviour between Allegro CLIM and McCLIM (it isn't too surprising that happens in some places), so I guess you'd have to make this a place where the code is different for the two different CLIMs.  As far as I'm concerned, we're trying to keep the CLIM code running under Allegro, but not developing it further.  I'd note that a lot of the functionality of the original CLIM interface is available with the LUI, which is now the prefered interface for most people, though I'm not sure whether there's a substitute for the bits you're working on right now.  http://moin.delph-in.net/LkbLui
> All best,
> Ann
> On 03/01/2016 14:56, John R. Towler wrote:
>> Hello,
>>         I am working on getting an open source compile and build for the
>>         Lkb.  I have a compile on sbcl with experimental threads.  I am
>>         running into an error of (:command-table something) needing a
>>         list as argument.  I have McCLIM and it runs.  It containes an
>>         example LispListener which runs and has code like the above
>>         (:command-table unquoted-something).  This is the current
>>         obstacle.  Clisp compiles also with McCLIM and the Allegro
>>         compat functions from portableaserve.  Execution dies for clisp
>>         on lacking threading. This is experimental in clisp.  I would
>>         appreciate any help, it appears that but for the CLIM macro,
>>         define-application-frame's argument (:command-table
>>         lkb-top-command-table) not being a list, this code would run.
>>         NetBSD-6.1.4, sbcl-1.3.1-plus, cliki.net and common-lisp.net
>>         open source tools, McCLIM which works for its example code.
>>         Sincerely,
>>         John R. Towler

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