[developers] Regarding to German sentence analysis.

megha jain jain11megha at gmail.com
Thu Mar 16 10:43:48 CET 2017 

Hello.

Can someone let me know any German morphological analyzer to be work with?
Please share the link.

Thank You.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Michael Wayne Goodman <goodmami at uw.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Megha,
>
> I'm afraid I don't know offhand a good tool for German morphological
> analysis. Surely some exist, but I don't work with German data enough to
> offer a recommendation. Perhaps someone on the developers list (re-CC'd,
> again) knows more than me.
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:30 AM, megha jain <jain11megha at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> Can you let me know tool which does German morphological analysis?
>> Please share the link.
>>
>> Thank You.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Michael Wayne Goodman <goodmami at uw.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Megha,
>>>
>>> As described in the top paragraph of the command-line tutorial (
>>> https://github.com/delph-in/pydelphin/wiki/Command-line-Tutorial), the
>>> `delphin` command will be available on your system if you installed
>>> PyDelphin via pip (e.g. `pip install pydelphin`). If you instead cloned the
>>> repository, the command is `delphin.sh` in the top PyDelphin directory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:17 PM, megha jain <jain11megha at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>> I want to know what is delphin path in below command:
>>>> sed 's/--/__/g' dmrs.txt | delphin convert --from dmrx --to simplemrs |
>>>> sed 's/__/--/g'
>>>>
>>>> When I gave path home=>pydelphin=>delphin it doesn't find it.
>>>>
>>>> Thank You.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:16 AM, megha jain <jain11megha at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Stephan Oepen <oe at ifi.uio.no>
>>>>> Date: Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 3:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [developers] Regarding to German sentence analysis.
>>>>> To: Ann Copestake <aac10 at cl.cam.ac.uk>, Michael Wayne Goodman <
>>>>> goodmami at uw.edu>
>>>>> Cc: developers <developers at delph-in.net>, megha jain <
>>>>> jain11megha at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> no need to add VPM rules which unconditionally delete: that will be
>>>>> the default behavior for any variable properties for which no mapping is
>>>>> defined.  mike, could you update your addition to RmrsVpm in this light?
>>>>>
>>>>> however, GG has explicit VPM rules for --PSV and several others that
>>>>> start in double hyphens, so it would seem berthold actually wants these in
>>>>> the external interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> i too was under the impression that the double-hyphen prefix typically
>>>>> indicates something grammar-internal, but that could just be an
>>>>> ERG-specific convention.
>>>>>
>>>>> either way, it would seem sad to formally disallow initial hyphens in
>>>>> MRS variable properties because they cause problems for some serializations
>>>>> of some derived representations.  i would rather look for a
>>>>> backwards-compatible extension of the DMRX and RMRX schemas then, to deal
>>>>> with the full range of identifiers supported in grammars and native MRSs.
>>>>>
>>>>> all best, oe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed 22 Feb 2017 at 19:17 Michael Wayne Goodman <goodmami at uw.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Ann. Francis said (offline) something similar about those
>>>>> being grammar-internal properties. I've updated the RmrsVpm wiki with an
>>>>> example of how to remove them via a VPM (http://moin.delph-in.net/Rmrs
>>>>> Vpm#Corner_Cases). Is there any better place to document this
>>>>> information?
>>>>>
>>>>> And I also thought it might affect MRS's XML format as well, but then
>>>>> I remembered that property names are stored as element text instead of
>>>>> attribute names, so they don't suffer the same problem:
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>> <extrapair><path>--PSV</path><value>non-apsv</value></extrapair>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> It would affect the RMRX format, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2017 04:42, "Ann Copestake" <aac10 at cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> from memory, the interpretation of the "--" was intended to be that
>>>>> this was something that should not appear in the external MRS
>>>>>
>>>>> in any case, it wouldn't be a DMRS issue, as such, since presumably it
>>>>> could apply to any of the MRS XML formats
>>>>>
>>>>> All best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ann
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/02/17 20:21, Michael Wayne Goodman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ann:
>>>>>  Does the LKB do anything special regarding properties like --PSV when
>>>>> reading/writing DMRX? They aren't ill-formed in the SimpleMRS format, so
>>>>> I'm wondering if PyDelphin should attempt to do anything special for these.
>>>>>
>>>>> Megha:
>>>>>   I just thought of another alternative. You can serialize to the
>>>>> DMRS-JSON format instead of DMRX. JSON doesn't have the same attribute name
>>>>> constraints as XML. The process is slightly different. Here is
>>>>> MRS->DMRS-JSON conversion:
>>>>>
>>>>>     import json
>>>>>     from delphin.mrs import simplemrs
>>>>>     from delphin.mrs.xmrs import Dmrs
>>>>>     print(
>>>>>         json.dumps(
>>>>>             Dmrs.from_xmrs(simplemrs.load_one(source)).to_dict()
>>>>>         )
>>>>>     )
>>>>>
>>>>> (the Dmrs.from_xmrs(...) bit is just for Python2 compatibility. In
>>>>> Python3, you can just do: Dmrs.to_dict(simplemrs.loads_one(source)))
>>>>>
>>>>> DMRS-JSON -> MRS conversion is similar:
>>>>>
>>>>>     ...
>>>>>     print(
>>>>>         simplemrs.dumps_one(
>>>>>             Dmrs.from_dict(json.load(source))
>>>>>         )
>>>>>     )
>>>>>
>>>>> These methods require PyDelphin v0.6.0 (the latest release).
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Michael Wayne Goodman <
>>>>> goodmami at uw.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Megha,
>>>>>
>>>>> (I've re-CC'd the developers list so they can benefit or contribute;
>>>>> please include them in follow-up replies)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for clarifying.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you do MRS -> DMRS conversion in your script, it is essentially
>>>>> this:
>>>>>
>>>>>     print(dmrx.dumps(simplemrs.load(source)))
>>>>>
>>>>> This loads the simplemrs-encoded source (e.g. a file or sys.stdin; or
>>>>> use simplemrs.loads() for a string argument) into the internal *MRS
>>>>> representation, then the dmrx codec serializes the internal representation
>>>>> to DMRX. Doing DMRS -> MRS conversion is the same, but reversed:
>>>>>
>>>>>     print(simplemrs.dumps(dmrx.load(source)))
>>>>>
>>>>> (More technically, the dmrx and simplemrs codecs decode the text
>>>>> streams/strings and instantiate the Dmrs() and Mrs() classes, respectively,
>>>>> in the delphin.mrs.xmrs module. It is these classes (and not the codecs
>>>>> themselves) that do the actual conversion into the internal format.)
>>>>>
>>>>> However, there is a problem with the GG grammar and DMRS. The variable
>>>>> properties prefixed by "--" (e.g. "--PSV") cause errors when loading a
>>>>> DMRS. This is because the hyphen is not a valid initial character in an XML
>>>>> attribute name (https://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#NT-NameStartChar). It
>>>>> is Python's XML parser, and not PyDelphin, that is failing to load the DMRX
>>>>> instance. I suggest doing one of the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>  1. Change the attribute names in the GG grammar
>>>>>
>>>>>  2. In your conversion script, find and replace these attributes on
>>>>> the MRS before converting to DMRS, and change them back in DMRS->MRS
>>>>> conversion. You may use underscores (e.g. "__PSV") as the initial
>>>>> character, according to the XML spec.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this help?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:13 AM, megha jain <jain11megha at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Michael.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know usage of Pydelphin so able to implement via this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to know which python code is being used by you to convert
>>>>> German DMRS into German MRS again?
>>>>>
>>>>> So that this MRS can be given ACE to generate corresponding German
>>>>> sentence.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am able to process : German sentence => MRS
>>>>>                                  MRS => DMRS
>>>>>                                  DMRS => MRS (that is my concern)
>>>>>
>>>>> EXAMPLE :-(A.)  INPUT : Abrams bellte sehr leise.
>>>>>
>>>>> (B.) When I gave above one sentence to ACE , It generated following
>>>>> MRS :-
>>>>> (command used : ./ace -g ggp.dat -1Tf input_file.txt)
>>>>>
>>>>> Following file is attached below.
>>>>>
>>>>> (C) I gave this MRS as an input to mrs_to_dmrs-pp.py pyhon code and
>>>>> corresponding DMRS generated.
>>>>> Following file is attached below.
>>>>>
>>>>> (D.) After this I want to convert corresponding DMRS into MRS . Which
>>>>> python code comes in use for this approach?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully I am able to make you understand what is my concern.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank You.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Michael Wayne Goodman
>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate, UW Linguistics
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Michael Wayne Goodman
>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate, UW Linguistics
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael Wayne Goodman
>>> Ph.D. Candidate, UW Linguistics
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Michael Wayne Goodman
> Ph.D. Candidate, UW Linguistics
>
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