[developers] [ACE] [JACY] neg_x cfrom cto = -1. is this a bug?

Tuấn Anh Lê tuananh.ke at gmail.com
Sat Jul 29 02:06:53 CEST 2017


Ah, I misunderstood your previous message. I tried to load JACY with LKB
just now and it produced cfrom:cto for neg_x for me too.

On 29 July 2017 at 03:17, Michael Wayne Goodman <goodmami at uw.edu> wrote:

> The coref problem was addressed in a commit on May 2nd, but that would
> only fix the problem of loading with the LKB, not the CFROM/CTO issue.
>
> But when I try and parse with the LKB, I see the expected CFROM/CTO
> values, but with ACE I see <-1:-1>:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Tuấn Anh Lê <tuananh.ke at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I got that from the github page https://github.com/delph-in/jacy
>>
>> The last commit was in May 4th.
>>
>> commit 7aba30accc0094c41218cdbe915ded03909e0874
>> Merge: d204238 abd3425
>> Author: Francis Bond <bond at ieee.org>
>> Date:   Thu May 4 12:44:33 2017 -0700
>>
>>     Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/delph-in/jacy
>>
>> commit d2042386c7bcb824685fc1edc1ee1c5a721b1aa1
>> Author: Francis Bond <bond at ieee.org>
>> Date:   Wed May 3 13:47:51 2017 -0700
>>
>>     Fixed niyotte-case-chasen
>>
>>
>> I recompiled the grammar using that version. It's still the same.
>>
>> [tuananh at localhost jacy]$ echo "猫 が 好き じゃ ない 。" | ace -g jacy.dat -1Tf
>> SENT: 猫 が 好き じゃ ない 。
>> [ LTOP: h0
>> INDEX: e2 [ e TENSE: pres MOOD: indicative PROG: - PERF: - ASPECT:
>> default_aspect PASS: - SF: prop ]
>> RELS: < [ udef_q_rel<0:1> LBL: h4 ARG0: x5 [ x PERS: 3 ] RSTR: h6 BODY:
>> h7 ]
>>  [ "_neko_n_rel"<0:1> LBL: h8 ARG0: x5 ]
>>  [ "_suki_a_1_rel"<4:6> LBL: h9 ARG0: e2 ARG1: i10 ARG2: x5 ]
>>  [ neg_x_rel<-1:-1> LBL: h1 ARG0: e11 [ e TENSE: tense MOOD: indicative
>> PROG: - PERF: - ASPECT: default_aspect PASS: - SF: prop ] ARG1: h12 ] >
>> HCONS: < h0 qeq h1 h6 qeq h8 h12 qeq h9 > ]
>> NOTE: 1 readings, added 371 / 130 edges to chart (62 fully instantiated,
>> 50 actives used, 28 passives used)     RAM: 1835k
>>
>>
>> NOTE: parsed 1 / 1 sentences, avg 1835k, time 0.01112s
>>
>>
>> On 29 July 2017 at 00:44, Michael Wayne Goodman <goodmami at uw.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Tuấn Anh, when did you get your version of Jacy? Francis and I noticed
>>> errors like that when there was a solitary coreference #tag in an AVM (ACE
>>> didn't mind as much as the LKB), but I thought we'd fixed them all. Make
>>> sure your version of Jacy is up to date and try again?
>>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2017 09:01, "Tuấn Anh Lê" <tuananh.ke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Woodley, thanks for answering. I can't seem to load the grammar on
>>>> my LKB, but logon has never really worked on my laptop for some reasons so
>>>> may be it's my machine (it does load ERG though). I don't know how to use
>>>> PET so I can't talk for it.
>>>>
>>>> When I load JACY on my laptop, there is this error message that shows
>>>> up every time.
>>>>
>>>> Reading in type file fundamentals
>>>> [23:59:36] gc-after-hook(): {L#30 N=1.2M O=0 E=97%} [S=2.2G R=150M].
>>>>
>>>> WARNING: Type `EXTRACTED-ADJ-PHRASE' redefined.
>>>> WARNING: Type `BASIC-HEAD-FILLER-PHRASE' redefined.
>>>> WARNING: Type `GAP' redefined.
>>>> WARNING: Type `CONJ-REF-IND' redefined.
>>>> WARNING: Type `GENERIC_ENTITY_REL' redefined.
>>>> Reading in type file rule-types
>>>> Reading in type file principles
>>>> Reading in type file letypes
>>>> [23:59:37] gc-after-hook(): {L#31 N=3.3M O=0 E=97%} [S=2.2G R=277M].
>>>>
>>>> Syntax error at position 437529: Coreference NEG_X_REL only used once
>>>> Reading in type file mtr
>>>> Reading in type file tmt
>>>> Error: Syntax error(s) in type file
>>>>
>>>> Restart actions (select using :continue):
>>>>  0: Cancel load
>>>>  1: retry the load of /home/tuananh/workspace/jacy/lkb/script.common
>>>>  2: skip loading /home/tuananh/workspace/jacy/lkb/script.common
>>>>  3: retry the load of ~/wk/jacy/lkb/script
>>>>  4: skip loading ~/wk/jacy/lkb/script
>>>>  5: Return to Top Level (an "abort" restart).
>>>>  6: Abort entirely from this (lisp) process.
>>>>
>>>> [changing package from "TSDB" to "LKB"]
>>>> [1c] LKB(3):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 28 July 2017 at 23:27, Woodley Packard <sweaglesw at sweaglesw.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tuấn Anh,
>>>>>
>>>>> This can happen if the CFROM/CTO attributes in the AVM are never
>>>>> specialized to specific values like "4" or "13".  In this case, it appears
>>>>> to me that the lexeme "janai-cop-stem" does not do this.  Do you observe
>>>>> different behavior from LKB or PET?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>> Woodley
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Tuấn Anh Lê <tuananh.ke at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anyone working with JACY and ACE. Sometimes cfrom and cto of
>>>>> predicates are missing. For example, when I parse these two sentences:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - 猫 が 好き じゃ ない 。
>>>>>    - 猫 が あり ませ ん 。
>>>>>
>>>>> Both will produce a neg_x relation, but the neg_x one in the first
>>>>> sentence doesn't have cfrom and cto.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    -
>>>>>
>>>>>    [ TOP: h0  RELS: < [ udef_q_rel<0:1> LBL: h1 ARG0: x5 [ x PERS: 3 ] RSTR: h8 ]
>>>>>              [ _neko_n_rel<0:1> LBL: h2 ARG0: x5 ]
>>>>>              [ _suki_a_1_rel<4:6> LBL: h3 ARG0: e6 [ e TENSE: pres PROG: - PASS: - PERF: - ASPECT: default_aspect MOOD: indicative SF: prop ] ARG2: x5 ]
>>>>>              [ *neg_x_rel<-1:-1>* LBL: h4 ARG0: e7 [ e TENSE: tense PROG: - PASS: - PERF: - ASPECT: default_aspect MOOD: indicative SF: prop ] ARG1: h9 ] >  HCONS: < h0 qeq h4 h8 qeq h2 h9 qeq h3 > ]
>>>>>
>>>>>    -
>>>>>
>>>>>    [ TOP: h0  RELS: < [ udef_q_rel<0:1> LBL: h1 ARG0: x5 [ x PERS: 3 ] RSTR: h8 ]
>>>>>              [ _neko_n_rel<0:1> LBL: h2 ARG0: x5 ]
>>>>>              [ _exist_v_rel<4:6> LBL: h3 ARG0: e6 [ e TENSE: pres PROG: - PASS: - PERF: - ASPECT: default_aspect MOOD: indicative SF: prop ] ARG1: x5 ]
>>>>>              [ neg_x_rel<7:11> LBL: h4 ARG0: e7 [ e TENSE: tense PROG: - PASS: - PERF: - ASPECT: default_aspect MOOD: indicative SF: prop ] ARG1: h9 ] >  HCONS: < h0 qeq h4 h8 qeq h2 h9 qeq h3 > ]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yours,
>>>> --
>>>> Tuan Anh Le
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours,
>> --
>> Tuan Anh Le
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Wayne Goodman
> Ph.D. Candidate, UW Linguistics
>



-- 
Yours,
-- 
Tuan Anh Le
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