[developers] "Quite" problematic: MRS -> EDS conversion

Guy Emerson gete2 at cam.ac.uk
Wed Jul 25 11:21:03 CEST 2018

For "It was in January that Browne was hired", is the MRS correct?  I was
surprised to see both _in_p_temp and loc_nonsp mediating between mofy(Jan)
and _hire_v_1.  Is there a reason to have both?  It would seem more
consistent to have just _in_p_temp, which takes the intrinsic variable of
_hire_v_1 as its ARG1.  This would match the MRS for "Brown was hired in
January".  Adding the it-cleft seems to have the side effect of adding

The reason this is relevant is that, without the loc_nonsp, there would be
no need to look at TENSE.

2018-07-24 23:18 GMT+01:00 Michael Wayne Goodman <goodmami at uw.edu>:

> Answering one of my own questions; see below...
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:49 PM, Michael Wayne Goodman <goodmami at uw.edu>
> wrote:
>> If anyone has read this far, I have a question: both the ERG and Jacy
>> have a [ TENSE untensed ] property, but is this a more widespread
>> convention? I'm reluctant to rely on it because I want to avoid
>> parametrizing my semantic conversion functions for grammar-specific values.
> I surveyed some grammars, and noted that the following use [ TENSE
> untensed ]: ERG, Jacy, gg, SRG
> The following do not: NorSource, Semitic Grammar (HeGram), BURGER, HaG,
> KRG, INDRA, Zhong
> Also note:
> * HaG has [ TAM untensed ] exported in the VPM, but not [ TENSE untensed ]
> * Zhong does not use the TENSE property at all
> So I think it's safe to say that it's *not* a widespread convention among
> medium-sized or larger grammars.
> One alternative to this specific tense property is the pos field of
> predicates, which is part of MRS and not grammar-defined. The idea is that
> predicates of certain pos values are more likely to modify others, such as
> verbs modifying nouns ("sleeping dog"), adpositionals modifying verbs ("ran
> quickly", "ran in the park"), degree modifiers on adpositionals ("ran very
> quickly", "the cat was very much in the bag"), etc. Abstract predicates
> (which do not formally have a pos) would come last, I suppose. But I'm not
> certain that such a gradation is not language-specific, and there are
> probably counter-examples.
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