[developers] LUI binaries in the main LKB repository

[Woodley Packard]

Hi again Francis et al,

On the subject of making quickcheck files: the SVN version of ACE now has a command-line option --gen-qc, which (1) causes quickcheck to be disabled for whatever operations take place, and (2) records unification failures and prints a suitable quickcheck skeleton upon termination (in ACE-readable format, though sadly not PET-readable format; maybe someone will be able to scriptually reformat if they care).  I can’t quite recall what historic situation resulted in you having something called "ace-which-makes-quickcheck files", but in the future this should be subsumed by the ordinary ACE.

Best,
-Woodley

> On Dec 11, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Francis Bond <bond at ieee.org> wrote:
> 
> If and when you are looking at building things, it would be great if you could script creating a full set of binaries for each ace version.   This would make life much easier for Zhong, Jacy and Indra.
> 
> ace
> ace-which-makes-quickcheck files
> fftb
> ffmaster, ffworker
> csaw
> exmaster, exworker
> 
> yzlui    
> art 
> I'm not sure if the last two have to be redone for each version of ace, ...
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:09 PM Woodley Packard <sweaglesw at sweaglesw.org <mailto:sweaglesw at sweaglesw.org>> wrote:
> Hi Stephan,
> 
> My most recent attempt at building anything in the RHEL VM was not a successful experience.  I have another ancient and 64-bit build environment that I used for my recent ACE and FFTB binary contributions to the LOGON tree, so far without noticeable incident.  I believe you are right that attempts to make yzlui completely statically linked have been failures ever since the addition of pango support.  I expect to be able to produce a yzlui binary of similar portability to the current LOGON tree’s ACE and FFTB without too much trouble, and will give that a try.
> 
> From the San Jose airport, where there is a distinct lack of adorable snow,
> Woodley
> 
> > On Dec 11, 2018, at 6:26 AM, Stephan Oepen <oe at ifi.uio.no <mailto:oe at ifi.uio.no>> wrote:
> > 
> > hi again, woodley,
> > 
> > returning to a thread from a couple of years ago :-).  dan is visiting
> > this week, and we are seeking to consolidate things in the LOGON tree
> > for premium support of the latest ERG release.  in doing so, we
> > re-discovered that the yzlui binaries in LOGON (contributed by you in
> > february 2014) actually both are compiled for 32-bit environments.  i
> > dimly recall that was a deliberate decision at the time, but today it
> > causes dan problems that he used to not be aware of (because he had
> > back-dated his yzlui locally to an older 64-bit binary of unknown
> > provenance); somewhat curiously, it does not cause me problems,
> > apparently because i happen to have the right set of 32-bit
> > compatibility libraries installed.
> > 
> > hence ...
> > 
> >> I believe there is no reason a 64-bit yzlui could not be built, and I also believe I still am in possession of an elderly RedHat VM, although I am not sure it is a 64-bit VM.
> >> 
> >> Is the problem that running 32-bit binaries on a 64-bit system requires extra compatibility libraries, and you would like to remove that dependency?
> > 
> > yes, indeed.  it is getting increasingly difficult to make users
> > install the right set of compatibility libraries, i feel.  and i
> > believe we had concluded (in 2014) that yzlui actually had to be
> > dynamically linked and that at least several of its shared library
> > dependencies could not be bundled with the binary, for proper font and
> > unicode support on a specific local system.  does that resonate with
> > your memory from those days?
> > 
> > so, could we take you up on the kind offer to try and cook a 64-bit
> > version of yzlui in a suitably rustic linux environment (RHEL6 appears
> > to be at glibc version 2.12 today; i suspect the virtual machine image
> > you have may have originated from here)?
> > 
> > best wishes; the snow is adorable!  oe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Francis Bond <http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/fcbond/ <http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/fcbond/>>
> Division of Linguistics and Multilingual Studies
> Nanyang Technological University

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