[developers] LKB-FOS now includes [incr tsdb()]

[Francis Bond]

Hi,

to get it working on ubuntu 18.04.4, I had to make some libraries visible:
bdb.so, libdb-4.2.so, libtermcap.so.2

I did this with:
export
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/bond/delphin/lkb_fos.2020/src/tsdb/linux.x86.64:/home/bond/delphin/lkb_fos.2020/lib/linux.x86.64

I also had to link libtermcap.so.2 ->
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncurses.so.5.9

Maybe we could have a symbolic link from src/tsdb/linux.x86.64/bdb.so
to lib/linux.x86.64/bdb.so
so that we only have to point to a single directory?

Should I make an installation section in LkbFos and add the notes there?


On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 5:39 AM John Carroll <J.A.Carroll at sussex.ac.uk>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've just released a new version of LKB-FOS. The main change is that the
> Linux version includes all of the non-LOGON parts of [incr tsdb()]. The
> podium runs, and I believe that all of its menu commands are working
> correctly. I've created a foreign function interface in SBCL for the BDB C
> program, so training maxent models also works. Anything that's at all
> CPU-intensive runs a lot quicker than in the LOGON run-time binary.
>
> For macOS, I haven't made a serious attempt at recompiling the core [incr
> tsdb()] C programs (tsdb, swish++), so there's not much of it that works -
> the main useful exception being reading and applying maxent models (e.g. as
> described at the end of http://moin.delph-in.net/LkbGeneration).
>
> No LOGON-specific functionality is available (i.e. source code enabled by
> the :logon feature), which means that PVM, WWW demo, SVMs and language
> models, external MT system interfaces etc are missing. If anyone
> particularly wants one of these features in LKB-FOS, it should be possible
> now there's a solid foundation to start from.
>
> BTW, below is a relevant posting to the developers list by Stephan in
> 2006. The previous posting in that thread was over-optimistic: a number of
> issues (which I won't bore this list with) made the port to SBCL harder
> than one might have expected. Anyway, I'm pleased to have made progress on
> this issue 14 years on!
>
> All the best,
>
> John
>
> PS The new LKB-FOS contains many other improvements - please see the
> README. Download link at http://moin.delph-in.net/LkbFos
>
>
> > http://lists.delph-in.net/archives/developers/2006/000632.html
> >
> > [developers] SBCL port
> > Stephan Oepen oe at csli.Stanford.EDU
> > Mon Oct 30 11:23:05 CET 2006
> >
> > howdy,
> >
> > > But I expect a port would not be too difficult to achieve for either
> > > of these systems. Stephan, what do you think?
> >
> > [incr tsdb()] makes fairly central use of foreign functions, which are
> > non-standard.  also, the [incr tsdb()] GUI depends on threads, which in
> > SBCL are just barely available (in a way different from the traditional
> > MP package), and only for Linux on x86 and AMD64 currently.  i have no
> > current plans to port [incr tsdb()] to other Lisps, and personally i am
> > not too keen on getting other developers involved in that right now.  i
> > would want to review patches to [incr tsdb()] code so as to make sure i
> > can maintain its overall design.  these days i am afraid i have no time
> > for such activity.
> >
> > the LOGON MT architecture is an extension to [incr tsdb()], i.e it has
> > inherited the same constraints on cross-platform portability.  however,
> > we are about to release a complete run-time edition of LOGON, such that
> > people will be able to get full functionality without their own license
> > for Allegro CL.
> >
> > more high-level, SBCL does look like a Lisp going the right direction.
> > but before it makes sense for us to make the coordinated effort towards
> > supporting the breadth of DELPH-IN software on a new Lisp, we should be
> > sure of our minimum requirements.  the following come to my mind:
> >
> >   (1) stable, efficient, actively maintained ANSI CL implementation
> >   (2) UniCode strings, including full external format support
> >   (3) cross-platform availability
> >   (4) multi-processing, preferably with Lisp control of scheduler
> >   (5) foreign function interface
> >   (6) high-level OS interface: run-shell-command(), sockets, et al.
> >
> > SBCL appears to have all of the above but (4).  i know CMU-CL used to
> > include the traditional MP package, but i have no idea about the other
> > desiderata there.
> >
> >                                                           best  -  oe
> >
> >
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Francis Bond <http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/fcbond/>
Division of Linguistics and Multilingual Studies
Nanyang Technological University
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