<div dir="ltr"><div>G'day,<br><br>while we are discussing transfer rules, I would like to point out that there are some differences between the implementations in ACE and the LKB/LOGON. What combination of things would work and why when dealing with properties has always been mysterious to me, currently the ACE implementation seems to behave more as I would expect. <br> <br>The following rules show a clear difference between the behaviour for ACE and the LKB:<br><br>I am trying to make an entry for the idiom "hold one's horses".<br><br>If I make an idiomatic verb:<br>hold_v1_poss_i := v_np_refl-idm_le &<br> [ ORTH < "hold" >,<br> SYNSEM [ LKEYS.KEYREL.PRED "_hold_v_ones_i_rel",<br> PHON.ONSET con ] ].<br><br>And an idiom rule like such:<br><br>hold+ones+horses_ir := v_reflnp_idiom_mtr &<br> [ INPUT.RELS.LIST < [ PRED "_hold_v_ones_i_rel" ],<br> [ PRED "_horse_n_1_rel"], ... > ].<br><br>Then I get idiomatic readings for:<br>Kim holds her horses. (<img goomoji="360" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail">)<br>Kim holds her horse. (<img goomoji="33D" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" src="cid:33D@goomoji.gmail">)<br>And not for:<br>Kim holds my horse. (<img goomoji="360" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail">)<br><br>I would like to only allow the idiomatic reading for the plural case.<br><br>I have tried:<br>----------<br>hold+ones+horses_ir := v_reflnp_idiom_mtr &<br> [ INPUT.RELS.LIST < [ PRED "_hold_v_ones_i_rel" ],<br> [ PRED "_horse_n_1_rel", <a href="http://ARG0.PNG.PN">ARG0.PNG.PN</a> 3p & #pn], ... >,<br> FLAGS.EQUAL < #pn > ].<br><br>Which blocks both singular and plural in the LKB but allows only plural for ACE.<br>----------------<br>hold+ones+horses_ir := v_reflnp_idiom_mtr &<br> [ INPUT.RELS.LIST < [ PRED "_hold_v_ones_i_rel" ],<br> [ PRED "_horse_n_1_rel", ARG0 #x & [<a href="http://PNG.PN">PNG.PN</a> 3p ]], ... >,<br> FLAGS.EQUAL < #x > ].<br><br>Which allows both singular and plural in the LKB but allows only plural for ACE.<br>-------------<br>In fact, you don't even need the FLAGS.EQUAL for ACE:<br><br>hold+ones+horses_ir := v_reflnp_idiom_mtr &<br> [ INPUT.RELS.LIST < [ PRED "_hold_v_ones_i_rel" ],<br> [ PRED "_horse_n_1_rel", <a href="http://ARG0.PNG.PN">ARG0.PNG.PN</a> 3p], ... > ].<br><br>Which allows both singular and plural in the LKB but allows only plural for ACE.<br>-----------------<br><br></div>If anyone has an explanation for this behaviour, I would love to hear it :-).<br><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br>Francis Bond <<a href="http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/fcbond/">http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/fcbond/</a>><br>Division of Linguistics and Multilingual Studies<br>Nanyang Technological University</div></div></div>