<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <style type="text/css" style="display:none;"></style> </head> <body dir="ltr"> <div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#FFFFFF;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"> <p>Hi Emily -</p> <p><br> </p> <p>I ran into this behavior too when doing the SWB-oriented grammars for the grammar engineering course I taught with Tom last quarter.  The culprit turns out to be the function index-lexicon(), which right at its end cheerfully emits those warning/advice messages for all semantically empty entries regardless of whether trigger rules have been defined.  Since the same shortcoming is repeated in the separate function reindex-lexicon(), it proved to be easier for me to correct this by changing the function make-trigger-tdl() which they both call, so that the global mt::*transfer-triggers* is checked before emitting the warning for each semantically empty lexical entry.  Here is the patched version of this function analogous to what I added to my grammars' user-fns.lsp file:</p> <p><br> </p> <p>(defun make-trigger-tdl (empty-semantics-lexical-entries)<br>   (let ((empty-no-trigger-entries <br>      (loop for id in empty-semantics-lexical-entries<br>            unless (or #+:mt<br>               (gethash id mt::*transfer-triggers*)<br>               nil)<br>            collect id)))<br>    (loop for x in empty-no-trigger-entries<br>       do<br>     (format t "~%~%~a_gr := generator_rule &<br> [ CONTEXT.RELS <! [ PRED \"non_existing_rel\" ] !>,<br>   FLAGS.TRIGGER \"~a\" ]." <br>         (string-downcase x) <br>         (string-downcase x)))))</p> <p><br> </p> <p>I expect that Ann or Stephan could see a more elegant way to achieve this effect, but this patch might be a useful temporary expedient.<br> </p> <br> <p>  Dan</p> <p><br> </p> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <hr tabindex="-1" style="display:inline-block; width:98%"> <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> developers-bounces@emmtee.net <developers-bounces@emmtee.net> on behalf of Emily M. Bender <ebender@uw.edu><br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 10, 2016 7:43 AM<br> <b>To:</b> developers<br> <b>Subject:</b> [developers] Trigger rules still being requested</font> <div> </div> </div> <div> <div dir="ltr">Dear all, <div><br> </div> <div>In the Matrix derived grammars, we have the following in  lkb/script:</div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div>;;;</div> <div>;;; SSH 2012-03-27 This invokes trigger rules for semantically empty</div> <div>;;; lexical entries. The trigger rules themselves should be in</div> <div>;;; trigger.mtr in the grammar directory. The documentation on trigger</div> <div>;;; rules: <a id="LPlnk208819" href="http://moin.delph-in.net/LkbGeneration"> http://moin.delph-in.net/LkbGeneration</a></div> <div>;;;</div> <div>;;; SSH 2013-05-23 The semi.vpm file needs to be loaded *before* the</div> <div>;;; trigger.mtr file in lkb/script for correct interaction.</div> <div>;;;</div> <div><br> </div> <div>(mt:read-transfer-rules</div> <div> (list</div> <div>  (lkb-pathname (parent-directory) "trigger.mtr"))</div> <div>  "Generation trigger rules"</div> <div>  :filter nil :task :trigger :recurse nil :edges 200 :subsume nil)</div> <div><br> </div> <div>;;;</div> <div>;;; Matrix-derived grammars often have stable enough semantic</div> <div>;;; representations that the grammar can usefully be tested</div> <div>;;; by generating from them.  The function index-for-generator()</div> <div>;;; must be called for generation to be enabled.  In grammars with</div> <div>;;; small lexica, this takes a trivial amount of time.  If</div> <div>;;; generation is not being used regularly, and the indexing</div> <div>;;; is taking too long, comment out the following.  index-for-generator()</div> <div>;;; can also be run from the expanded LKB top menu, under</div> <div>;;; Generate.</div> <div>;;;</div> <div><br> </div> <div>(index-for-generator)</div> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>It is my understanding that (index-for-generator) is what is behind the messages</div> <div>suggesting trigger rules for semantically empty lexical entries, but even though</div> <div>we call it after loading the trigger rules, we still get messages such as the following:</div> <div><br> <div class="gmail_quote"> <div style="margin:1em 0px 2em"><br> <img style="-moz-user-select: none;" alt="" src="https://catalyst.uw.edu/file_download.cgi?ptkt=ef7def236ef9aa296b3372e09e0d1c8d7bb3fb0a0f764220c45caa89ec7f1332"><br> </div> Is there something else we're supposed to do so that we only see those messages<br> when an entry truly lacks a trigger rule?<br> <br> Thanks,<br> Emily</div> <div class="gmail_quote"><br> </div> -- <br> <div class="gmail_signature"> <div dir="ltr">Emily M. 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