<div dir="ltr">Thanks Stephan and Dan; replies below...<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Dan Flickinger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danf@stanford.edu" target="_blank">danf@stanford.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr"> <div id="gmail-m_6683995403544443829divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"> <p>I have not yet made any big change in the analysis of proper names, and I am also mystified at why the unknown name no longer gets printed in the generated sentence string. What is especially puzzling is that if you generate with the graphical tools enabled,</p> <p><br> </p> <p>ace -g erg.dat -elp --show-gen-chart<br> </p> <p><br> </p> <p>you'll see the unknown name cheerfully showing up both in the generator chart and in the parse trees for the generated sentences. So the feature structures must be very nearly right, but somehow not quite right. I'll keep looking through recent changes I've made to the ERG to see if I can find the relevant one.</p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks Dan. It seems that it's copying the ORTH value from generic_proper_ne in gle.tdl, but I'm not sure what would cause that. see below for more.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div id="gmail-m_6683995403544443829divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"> Dan<br> <div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%"> <div id="gmail-m_6683995403544443829divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:developers-bounces@emmtee.net" target="_blank">developers-bounces@emmtee.net</a> <<a href="mailto:developers-bounces@emmtee.net" target="_blank">developers-bounces@emmtee.net</a><wbr>> on behalf of Stephan Oepen <<a href="mailto:oe@ifi.uio.no" target="_blank">oe@ifi.uio.no</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 15, 2017 12:59 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Francis Bond; Michael Wayne Goodman<br> <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:developers@delph-in.net" target="_blank">developers@delph-in.net</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [developers] Latest ERG not generating unknown names with ACE</font> <div> </div> </div><div><div class="gmail-h5"> <div> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div> <div>Unity, _generic_proper_ne_ is dropping.<br> <div>_generic_proper_ne_ is dropping unity.</div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <div><br> </div> <div>it looks as if the right (generic) lexical entry is triggered, but its surface form does not reflect the CARG. could you email the input MRS?<br> <br> what happens in the LKB? e.g. when you do something like:<br> <br> (lkb::generate-from-mrs (mrs::read-mrs-from-file "~/src/logon/lingo/erg/mrs/nn.<wbr>mrs"))</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div> TSNLP(3): (lkb::generate-from-mrs (mrs::read-mrs-from-file "~/src/logon/lingo/erg/mrs/nn.mrs"))</div><div> Error: Received signal number 7 (Bus error)</div><div> [condition type: SYNCHRONOUS-OPERATING-SYSTEM-SIGNAL]</div></div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure what this error means, but I don't think it's relevant to the problem at hand. Note, the grammar *is* loaded and I can parse with `(lkb::do-parse-tty "Dogs bark.")`.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div id="gmail-m_6683995403544443829divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div><div class="gmail-h5"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"> <div>maybe dan has finally changed his analysis of proper names, to make them more similar to common nouns (no CARG)?</div> <div><br> </div> <div>—a general comment: do you guys have a specific reason to work off the ERG trunk? among other things, its SEM-I (and hence generation behavior) is not nearly as well-defined as in the 1214 release.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I was under the impression that trunk would be the most up-to-date version (i.e., that development is linear and 1214 is just a tagged point in time on that development path), but I guess trunk and the 1214 branch have diverged? Will trunk get 1214 features (like the new SEM-I) ported over?</div><div><br></div><div>The latest LOGON version of ERG (which is 1214, I think), does generate (except "Unity" is not recognized as a proper name and is thus lowercased, but that's a smaller issue):</div><div><br></div><div><div>~/logon/lingo/erg$ ace -g erg-logon.dat -e < unity.mrs </div><div>Ubuntu is dropping unity.</div></div><div><br></div><div>I attach the relevant MRSs (same sentence; one created with the ERG trunk and the other with the 1214 version).</div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Michael Wayne Goodman<div>Ph.D. Candidate, UW Linguistics</div></div></div> </div></div>