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<p>is it just that `done' as an adjective is in the ERG as requiring
a complement and should be allowed to appear without one? as in
"the chicken is done" etc So a matter of a modification to a
lexical entry. (I admit I am emailing without checking ...)</p>
<p>All best,</p>
<p>Ann<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/04/2018 23:21, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paul@haleyai.com">paul@haleyai.com</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks
Olga and Woodley. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
understood the passive but had not considered “X did him”!
The others, to the best of my knowledge, leave X as the
subject (not ARG2 or ARG3), no??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">You
are correct regarding what I expected Woodley and it may not
be in the ERG. The top parse for “he is done cooking” has
him as the subject (with some interesting variations). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
understood the possibility that some unspecified agent was
doing something to him (as in one interpretation of “he is
done cooking”) and would have been impressed to see some
“unknown” in the MRS to that effect.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">At
least I can make sense of this interpretation now, even
though I was hoping for something else.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks
again,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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Woodley Packard <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sweaglesw@sweaglesw.org"><sweaglesw@sweaglesw.org></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 6, 2018 6:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paul@haleyai.com">paul@haleyai.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> developers <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:developers@delph-in.net"><developers@delph-in.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [developers] on-line demo / simple
sentence<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As Olga pointed out, these are passive
readings. They correspond to something like:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">X did a good job.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">X did him.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">He is done( by X).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">X did his homework a favor.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">? X did his homework him.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">?? He is done his homework( by X).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I suspect the reading you are looking for
instead involves a sense of "done" conveying completion of
an unspecified event, rather than a passive variant of "do".
I’m not sure that sense is implemented in the ERG, although
I can’t speak for Dan for sure on that. I see parses with
that sense when the event in question is an explicit
complement of the adjective "done", e.g. for:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Woodley<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 6, 2018, at 2:36 PM, <<a
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I’m
afraid I have a stupid question, but am a bit
surprised at the following results (the MRS, in
particular, having “he” as ARG2 or ARG3).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Does
this look right to those of you who know more than
I? Can you help me understand the subject of the
“do” predication here, if so?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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you,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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