<div dir="ltr"><div>&quot;The new building is done&quot;<br><br></div>The ellipsis would have to be something like:<br><div><br></div><div>&quot;The new building is done being built&quot;<br><br></div><div>But this sounds awkward to me.  Maybe &quot;done&quot; and &quot;finished&quot; pattern with adjectives that can&#39;t take a complement:<br><br></div><div>&quot;The new building is ready/complete&quot;<br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-04-09 14:19 GMT+01:00 Ann Copestake <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:aac10@cl.cam.ac.uk" target="_blank">aac10@cl.cam.ac.uk</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>my intuition is that there&#39;s no ellipsis - I don&#39;t know how to
      test that, though<br>
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    <div class="m_-7567825495734780756moz-cite-prefix">On 09/04/18 14:02, Emily M. Bender
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      <div dir="ltr">I think it&#39;s more than just saying that it&#39;s
        optional though --- I think the meaning Paul was looking for
        there involves ellipsis, which probably isn&#39;t get enabled for
        &quot;done&quot;, &quot;finished&quot;, and whatever else goes into that class.
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        <div>Emily</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:34 AM, Ann
          Copestake <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:aac10@cl.cam.ac.uk" target="_blank">aac10@cl.cam.ac.uk</a>&gt;</span>
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              <p>is it just that `done&#39; as an adjective is in the ERG as
                requiring a complement and should be allowed to appear
                without one?  as in &quot;the chicken is done&quot; etc  So a
                matter of a modification to a lexical entry.  (I admit I
                am emailing without checking ...)</p>
              <p>All best,</p>
              <p>Ann<br>
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                  <div class="m_-7567825495734780756m_-2257869889126536995moz-cite-prefix">On
                    06/04/2018 23:21, <a class="m_-7567825495734780756m_-2257869889126536995moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paul@haleyai.com" target="_blank">paul@haleyai.com</a> wrote:<br>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Thanks
                          Olga and Woodley.  </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">I
                          understood the passive but had not considered
                          “X did him”!   The others, to the best of my
                          knowledge, leave X as the subject (not ARG2 or
                          ARG3), no??</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">You
                          are correct regarding what I expected Woodley
                          and it may not be in the ERG.  The top parse
                          for “he is done cooking” has him as the
                          subject (with some interesting variations).  </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">I
                          understood the possibility that some
                          unspecified agent was doing something to him
                          (as in one interpretation of “he is done
                          cooking”) and would have been impressed to see
                          some “unknown” in the MRS to that effect.</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">At
                          least I can make sense of this interpretation
                          now, even though I was hoping for something
                          else.</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Thanks
                          again,</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Paul</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                              Woodley Packard <a class="m_-7567825495734780756m_-2257869889126536995moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sweaglesw@sweaglesw.org" target="_blank">&lt;sweaglesw@sweaglesw.org&gt;</a>
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                              <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 6, 2018 6:04 PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> <a class="m_-7567825495734780756m_-2257869889126536995moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paul@haleyai.com" target="_blank">paul@haleyai.com</a><br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> developers <a class="m_-7567825495734780756m_-2257869889126536995moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:developers@delph-in.net" target="_blank">&lt;developers@delph-in.net&gt;</a><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [developers] on-line
                              demo / simple sentence</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">As Olga pointed out, these
                          are passive readings.  They correspond to
                          something like:</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">X did a good job.</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">X did him.</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">He is done( by X).</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">X did his neighbor a favor.</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">X did his homework a favor.</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">? X did his homework him.</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">?? He is done his homework(
                          by X).</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">I suspect the reading you
                          are looking for instead involves a sense of
                          &quot;done&quot; conveying completion of an unspecified
                          event, rather than a passive variant of &quot;do&quot;.
                           I’m not sure that sense is implemented in the
                          ERG, although I can’t speak for Dan for sure
                          on that.  I see parses with that sense when
                          the event in question is an explicit
                          complement of the adjective &quot;done&quot;, e.g. for:</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">He is done eating.</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">-Woodley</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 6, 2018, at 2:36
                              PM, &lt;<a href="mailto:paul@haleyai.com" target="_blank">paul@haleyai.com</a>&gt;
                              &lt;<a href="mailto:paul@haleyai.com" target="_blank">paul@haleyai.com</a>&gt;
                              wrote:</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Hi, <span class="m_-7567825495734780756m_-2257869889126536995apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">I’m
                                  afraid I have a stupid question, but
                                  am a bit surprised at the following
                                  results (the MRS, in particular,
                                  having “he” as ARG2 or ARG3).</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Does
                                  this look right to those of you who
                                  know more than I?  Can you help me
                                  understand the subject of the “do”
                                  predication here, if so?</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Thank
                                  you,</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Paul</span></p>
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