<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hi Neil,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I can address some of your points.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 6:00 AM Neil Stoker <<a href="mailto:neil@nmstoker.com">neil@nmstoker.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks Dan. That's really helpful and somehow I'd missed seeing that Quick Start page, so I'll study it to see what I can pick up.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 21:05 Dan Flickinger, <<a href="mailto:danf@stanford.edu" target="_blank">danf@stanford.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr"> <div id="gmail-m_-4842581486030257987m_1912870280350248785divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Developers and Neil,</p> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><br> </p> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">I'm forwarding to our more active `developers' list a request below from Neil that I hope others of you can answer with more clarity than I have. Neil, at the risk of presenting too many options, you might also look at this wiki page which outlines an alternative setup using the ACE parser and a suite of Python tools called PyDelphin:</p> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><br> </p> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><a href="http://moin.delph-in.net/QuickStart" class="gmail-m_-4842581486030257987m_1912870280350248785OWAAutoLink" id="gmail-m_-4842581486030257987m_1912870280350248785LPlnk209407" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://moin.delph-in.net/QuickStart</a></p> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><br> </p> <div>Thanks for your interest!</div> <div><br> </div> <div> Dan</div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%"> <div id="gmail-m_-4842581486030257987m_1912870280350248785divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Neil Stoker <<a href="mailto:neil@nmstoker.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">neil@nmstoker.com</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 24, 2019 6:06 PM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lingo@delph-in.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lingo@delph-in.net</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> ERG installation questions</font> <div> </div> </div> <div> <div dir="auto">Hello, <div dir="auto"><br> </div> <div dir="auto">I had a couple of questions about the installation of ERG and wondered if you could help?</div> <div dir="auto"><br> </div> <div dir="auto">I've been looking over the various pages detailing installation and background info (eg as per links below) as I'm hoping to install ERG on my main computer at home which runs Arch Linux and I wanted to check a couple of things first. I'm currently expecting to go for the compete install (ie option A)</div> <div dir="auto"><br> </div> <div dir="auto"><a href="http://moin.delph-in.net/ErgProcessing" id="gmail-m_-4842581486030257987m_1912870280350248785LPlnk683165" class="gmail-m_-4842581486030257987m_1912870280350248785OWAAutoLink" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://moin.delph-in.net/ErgProcessing</a></div> <div dir="auto"><a href="http://moin.delph-in.net/LogonInstallation" id="gmail-m_-4842581486030257987m_1912870280350248785LPlnk970502" class="gmail-m_-4842581486030257987m_1912870280350248785OWAAutoLink" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://moin.delph-in.net/LogonInstallation</a><br> </div> <div dir="auto"><br> </div> <div dir="auto">1. Has there been any exploration of using Docker to simplify installation? It seems to me that a lot of the complexity could be isolated if there were a Docker script. I'm not a Docker expert but I might try to have a go with this approach, assuming I'm not reinventing the wheel here!</div> <div dir="auto"><br> </div> <div dir="auto">2. There is mention of 32- bit binaries, but it also says that's as of 2012. Given the trend toward 64-bit in the meantime, I wondered if that had now changed?</div> <div dir="auto"><br> </div> <div dir="auto">If not, is the source for those binaries available or is the point that they're only distributed pre-compiled (ie 32-bit)?</div> </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">32-bit libraries appear to still be required for certain functionality. On Pop!_OS 18.10 (an Ubuntu derivative), after downloading the entire LOGON tree I was able to start up the LKB but not [incr tsdb()]. There were errors about 'yzlui' and 'swish++' missing, but the error was misleading: the binaries were at the specified location but the necessary 32-bit shared libraries were not installed. By installing these according to <a href="http://moin.delph-in.net/LogonUbuntu">http://moin.delph-in.net/LogonUbuntu</a> (just the first block about "recent" Ubuntus) I was able to make the errors go away and [incr tsdb()] could load. Alternatively, I could get a 64-bit yzlui from <a href="http://sweaglesw.org/linguistics/yzlui.x86-64">http://sweaglesw.org/linguistics/yzlui.x86-64</a> and replace the one at $LOGONROOT/logon/lingo/lkb/bin/linux.x86.64/yzlui, but I could not find a 64-bit swish++ binary. Also see this thread for more info about yzlui: <a href="http://lists.delph-in.net/archives/developers/2018/002872.html">http://lists.delph-in.net/archives/developers/2018/002872.html</a>.<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Also, I used to use Arch Linux and at the time I wrote some instructions for installing LOGON: <a href="http://moin.delph-in.net/LogonArch">http://moin.delph-in.net/LogonArch</a>. The last edit was 2013, so it may be quite outdated, but perhaps you'll find it helpful.<br></div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div id="gmail-m_-4842581486030257987m_1912870280350248785divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div><div dir="auto"> <div dir="auto">3. Is it strictly x86 or could this be made to work on ARM architectures? (guess that would depend on the response re the 32-bit point above).</div> <div dir="auto"><br> </div> <div dir="auto">4. Is there a way to expose the REST API from a local installation of ERG? I'm likely to want to run it on a large amount of data and didn't want to abuse the Oslo facilities, but using the API locally was appealing.</div> </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">I'm not aware of any instructions to run LOGON's web API locally, but the Bottlenose server (<a href="https://github.com/delph-in/bottlenose">https://github.com/delph-in/bottlenose</a>) is easy to set up. It is built on top of PyDelphin and ACE, so you may get slightly different results than from the LOGON version, but both implement the same API so it would be easy to switch from one to the other. In fact, the Delphin-viz demo uses both servers in the same installation: <a href="http://delph-in.github.io/delphin-viz/demo">http://delph-in.github.io/delphin-viz/demo</a><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">However if you wish to run the ERG on large amounts of data, I'd look into processing testsuites (also called "profiles"). Doing so may be more efficient than running parses through the web API and also you'll get more diagnostic information such as memory or time usage, etc., which can be useful for comparisons or debugging. The following software can process testsuites:</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">* [incr tsdb()] -- <a href="http://moin.delph-in.net/ItsdbTop">http://moin.delph-in.net/ItsdbTop</a></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">* art -- <a href="http://sweaglesw.org/linguistics/libtsdb/art">http://sweaglesw.org/linguistics/libtsdb/art</a></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">* PyDelphin -- <a href="https://pydelphin.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorials/itsdb.html#processing-testsuites-with-ace">https://pydelphin.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorials/itsdb.html#processing-testsuites-with-ace</a></div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div id="gmail-m_-4842581486030257987m_1912870280350248785divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div><div dir="auto"> <div dir="auto">I hope that's not too much to ask at once! A big thank you in advance, as this looks like a great project and I think it will be really interesting for analysis I'm working on.</div> <div dir="auto"><br> </div> <div dir="auto">Kind regards,</div> <div dir="auto">Neil Stoker</div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">-Michael Wayne Goodman</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>