<div dir="ltr">Dear Developers,<div> </div><div>Alexandre and I met a couple of weeks ago to continue the discussion on updating the current DELPH-IN infrastructure (started by Stephan earlier).</div><div> </div><div>Below are the notes from our meeting. Any comments welcome! </div><div> </div><div>DELPH-IN Infrastructure meetingDecember 29, 2020, 10--11 am Pacific TimePresent: Alexandre Rademaker, Olga Zamaraeva Platforms: We briefly discussed various platforms, but since we both agree that GitHub is a competitive solution, we focused mostly on discussing GitHub. Another possibility mentioned by Emily M. Bender via email is MediaWiki. Alexandre points out that MediaWiki is more challenging to serialize in a standard format, which is very important for posterity. In the end, the top priority is to have a solution that adopts open and standard formats and the use of cloud-based systems where we do not have to deal with low-level issues like hardware issues, OS maintenance, packages/libraries updates, etc. Considering the use of the GitHub infrastructure, we still have two alternatives to evaluate: <ol style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">An off-the-shelf wiki in a particular repository, e.g., doc, under the <a href="https://github.com/delph-in/" style="text-decoration-line:none">https://github.com/delph-in/</a> organization. </li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">A static site generated website hosted by <a href="http://pages.github.com" style="text-decoration-line:none">http://pages.github.com</a> service, possible using the address <a href="http://delph-in.github.io" style="text-decoration-line:none">http://delph-in.github.io</a>. Many tools, such as <a href="http://jekyllrb.com" style="text-decoration-line:none">http://jekyllrb.com</a>, can produce static sites. They are easy to maintain, and we can facilitate contributions using the online GitHub file editor and an automatically building script. See the header of the Universal Dependencies pages, such as <a href="https://universaldependencies.org/guidelines.html" style="text-decoration-line:none">https://universaldependencies.org/guidelines.html</a>. </li></ol> So far, our impression is that a static site generated website may be better for maintenance/posterity! But a wiki solution is more comfortable to start with. Features/Desiderata: <ol style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Notifying about recent changes</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Having each entry as a page/file</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Linking to other pages within the same wiki</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Seeing which pages are linked to the given page (reverse links)</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Linking to things outside the wiki</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Search</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Access to/ease of editing/contributing</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Access to different versions of a page</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Deleted pages: what should be known/done about those?</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Rigid vs. flat/free/absent organization</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">creating groups with privileges (MoinMoin unique feature called ACL)</li></ol> More we can learn from other experiences: <a href="https://github.com/coq/coq/wiki/WikiMigration" style="text-decoration-line:none"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://github.com/coq/coq/wiki/WikiMigration</a> Issues:<ol style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Is it possible to assume some people will serve as admins? E.g., to approve changes or modify wiki structure.</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">How to deal with the pages of our current wiki with ACL restrictions? </li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">Attached materials such as pdfs, videos, etc.? How to better host them?</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre">What is the ideal balance between 'easy to use tools' vs. its 'careless content creation' consequence? </li></ol><div> </div>-- <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Olga Zamaraeva</div></div></div>