[developers] Trouble Seeing Test Suite Instances

Emily M. Bender ebender at uw.edu
Tue Sep 9 00:02:51 CEST 2014 

[Again, adding developers back to the cc.]

Joshua, I think you just established that there's nothing wrong with the
skeleton, but that's not too surprising.  The problem seems to be with
[incr tsdb()]'s ability to "see" certain directories on the UbuntuLKB
distro.  I'm cc-ing David B. in the hopes that he might have some time to
look at this with Alec and/or some ideas.

Emily




On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Alexander Sugar <sugara at uw.edu> wrote:

> Joshua,
>
>      Somehow in updating my VirtualBox, I lost previous test suite
> instances. If I point my database root at the opt/delphin/... path
> that's set as a default, I am able to see those profiles in the podium
> after I create them (and I get the same "unable to write history file
> message", so that's definitely not the issue).
>
>     I'm using version 2.0 (16-jun-13; beta) of [incr tsdb()] on UbuntuLKB
> 17.
>
> - Alec
>
> On 9/6/14, Joshua Crowgey <jcrowgey at u.washington.edu> wrote:
> > Hi Alec,
> >
> > I doubt that .tsdb_history is the issue.  In Unix-like systems, many
> > programs will store config info or other user-settings in files that
> > start with "." in the user's home directory.  If you say (in a shell):
> >
> > $ ls -la ~/
> >
> > You'll see several such files, probably at least .emacs, .bashrc.  In my
> > own system, I suppose that .tsdb_history stores your tsdb commands so
> > that (maybe?) you can press "up" and see the previous command, or
> > something like that.  I found a .tsdb_history with these lines:
> >
> > jcrowgey at citrus:~$ cat .tsdb_history
> > do "/tmp/.tsdb.io.jcrowgey.11333.118378".
> > do "/tmp/.tsdb.io.jcrowgey.11333.118384".
> >
> > Because I've restarted my system since I last used tsdb, the /tmp
> > directory has been cleared and I'm not sure what was in those
> > /tmp/.tsdb.io.jcrowgey.* files.   My guess is those were a record of my
> > sessions this morning when I was playing around with your item and
> > relations files.
> >
> > Anyway, the fact that the files were created is interesting, I think.
> > It suggests that tsdb can create the new files, but we still don't know
> > why it can't read those files and display them in the podium.
> >
> > This makes me thing of another troubleshooting/debugging test.  Can you
> > see other existing testsuite instances?  That is, if you already had a
> > profile with results and such, and you point your database root at that
> > dir, do those profiles show up in the podium?
> >
> > Sorry I don't really have good answers for you.  I just thought I'd jump
> > in and give you some stuff to try out.  By the way, are you using the
> > knoppix+lkb distro?  What are the details of your platform?
> >
> > --Joshua
> >
> > On 09/06/2014 05:53 PM, Alexander Sugar wrote:
> >> Hi Joshua,
> >>
> >>       I think the reason I didn't see anything printed out in emacs
> >> was because I had previously 'created' an instance. When I cleared out
> >> the files inside of the home folder, I saw the same lines printed as
> >> you, except in the end:
> >>
> >> initialize(): creating empty data file for `score'.
> >> main(): no history file `.tsdb_history'.
> >>
> >> And of course no instance showed up in the podium. I'm guessing the
> >> '.tsdb_history' line is the source of the problem. Is there a quick
> >> fix for it? If so, that's great but I'm sorry to have put you through
> >> so much trouble just now...
> >>
> >> - Alec
> >>
> >> On 9/6/14, Joshua Crowgey <jcrowgey at u.washington.edu> wrote:
> >>> Hi Alec,
> >>>
> >>> I put your item and relations files into a dir and pointed my itsdb at
> >>> them and as far as I can tell, they loaded without a problem---ie, tsdb
> >>> was able to create a new instance and I see it appear in the podium
> >>> window.
> >>>
> >>> As to stderr, I think if you start tsdb in emacs then all of the
> >>> messages get printed there.  When I click to create a new instance of
> >>> your item and relations files, I see:
> >>>
> >>> LKB(2): initialize(): creating empty data file for `analysis'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `phenomenon'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `parameter'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `set'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `item-phenomenon'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `item-set'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `run'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `parse'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `result'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `rule'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `output'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `edge'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `tree'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `decision'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `preference'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `update'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `fold'.
> >>> initialize(): creating empty data file for `score'.
> >>> close-connection():
> >>> `/home/jcrowgey/Desktop/alexsugar/tsdb/anonymous/alex/14-09-06/lkb1/'
> >>> expiry
> >>>
> >>> You don't see anything happening there, eh?  I'm not sure it would
> help,
> >>> but it might be interesting to try this:
> >>>
> >>> Since all the tsdb instance is (before you use it) is just a set of
> >>> empty files + copies of the item and relations files, you could simply
> >>> make the instance yourself on the command line and then see if tsdb can
> >>> recognize and already created one.  Perhaps this would give a clue as
> to
> >>> whether the issue is in creating files or if reading files is affected
> >>> too.
> >>>
> >>> I think the usual directory structure is:
> >>>
> >>> $DATABASEROOT/NAME_OF_GRAMMAR/NAME_OF_TS/DATE/lkb/
> >>>
> >>> Then, inside that final dir, you just put a copy of item and relations
> >>> plus empty files with the following names:
> >>>
> >>> jcrowgey at citrus:~/Desktop/alexsugar/tsdb$ ls -la
> >>> anonymous/alex/14-09-06/lkb
> >>> total 56
> >>> drwxr-xr-x 2 jcrowgey jcrowgey  4096 Sep  6 13:14 .
> >>> drwxr-xr-x 4 jcrowgey jcrowgey  4096 Sep  6 13:15 ..
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 analysis
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 decision
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 edge
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 fold
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey 36234 Sep  6 13:14 item
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 item-phenomenon
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 item-set
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 output
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 parameter
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 parse
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 phenomenon
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 preference
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey  9746 Sep  6 13:14 relations
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 result
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 rule
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 run
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 score
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 set
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 tree
> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jcrowgey jcrowgey     0 Sep  6 13:14 update
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if it will help, but if you can initialize your own
> >>> instance and tsdb is able to read it, that might help you go ahead with
> >>> your grammar testing and it might help "developers" get an idea of what
> >>> part of the program is going wrong.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry I don't have anything better for you,
> >>>
> >>> --Joshua
> >>>
> >>> On 09/05/2014 05:01 PM, Alexander Sugar wrote:
> >>>> I don't see any error messages appearing either in STDERR (which I
> >>>> assume is the bar at the bottom-right of the [tsdb()] window) or emacs
> >>>> (which I used to start tsdb).
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm attaching my 'item' and 'relations' files. Thanks a lot for
> looking
> >>>> at
> >>>> them.
> >>>> - Alec
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/5/14, Joshua Crowgey <jcrowgey at u.washington.edu> wrote:
> >>>>> I see.  In fact, now that I think about it, the fact that your
> >>>>> testsuite
> >>>>> appears under File > Create seems to indicate that skeletons and
> >>>>> Index.lisp are correct.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When you click on your testsuite under File > Create and nothing
> >>>>> appears
> >>>>> in the window, is there any text or error messages that appear in
> >>>>> STDERR
> >>>>> or in emacs (if you started tsdb using the emacs interface)?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, if you want to send me your 'item' and 'relations' files I can
> >>>>> try
> >>>>> to replicate your error on my system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --Joshua
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 09/05/2014 03:37 PM, Alexander Sugar wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Joshua,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      Thanks for offering your help. I just double checked, and my
> >>>>>> skeletons directory indeed has Relations (with a capital 'R') and
> >>>>>> Index.lisp. The latter points to the folders 'testsuite' and
> >>>>>> 'testcorpus', which each contain an 'item' and 'relations' file.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Alec
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/5/14, Joshua Crowgey <jcrowgey at u.washington.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Alex,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm not super-fluent with tsdb, but just to make sure you tried it:
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>> you double-checked that the skeletons root is set correctly?  It
> >>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>> be pointing to a directory that contains Relations and Index.lisp
> >>>>>>> where
> >>>>>>> Relations gives the schema for the fields in the tsdb profiles and
> >>>>>>> Index.lisp gives paths to testsuites.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --Joshua
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 09/05/2014 12:01 PM, Alexander Sugar wrote:
> >>>>>>>> To whom it may concern,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>      I am a graduate student at the University of Washington
> >>>>>>>> learning
> >>>>>>>> how to use Delph-in tools like [incr tsdb()]. Recently, when I try
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> process my small uig grammar in [incr tsdb()], I see my test suite
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> one test corpus under File > Create. After clicking 'create',
> >>>>>>>> however,
> >>>>>>>> no test suite instances appear in my window. Could you please help
> >>>>>>>> me
> >>>>>>>> fix this problem?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>>> Alexander Sugar
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >
>



-- 
Emily M. Bender
Associate Professor
Department of Linguistics
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