[developers] matrix predicate names

[Francis Bond]

G'day,

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Emily M. Bender <ebender at uw.edu> wrote:
> Thanks, Francis. The ones with the old string syntax (' ) have been
> updated to regular strings already (so more recently than the start
> of zhong, I guess!).
>
> As for the other ones, it is not clear to me what the desirable values
> are, actually:
>
> * named_rel follow(s|ed) the ERG, and I suspect norm_rel did too.
> * the Matrix does not have a strong position on hierarchies of predicate
> names, and so I think defaults to strings there.
>
> I can see, however, that having these as strings would get in the way
> for grammars that wanted types (or different strings), and also that
> using "exist_q_rel" in that particular case is imposing my view of what
> the quantifier predicates should look like, without really supporting it.
> I note that the bare-np-phrase type doesn't seem to give a PRED value
> to its quant-relation...
>
> I'd be interested to try to harmonize these aspects of our MRS
> representations,
> maybe as a SIG this summer?

Sounds like a plan.


> Emily
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Francis Bond <bond at ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>> G'day,
>>
>> we have five instances of '_rel'  in a recent matrix (the one in zhong)
>> norm_rel := predsort.
>> named_rel := norm_rel.
>>   [ PRED named_rel,
>>   [ PRED 'implicit_coord_rel ].
>>   [ PRED 'null_coord_rel ].
>>      RELS <! [ PRED "exist_q_rel", ARG0 #ind, RSTR #ltop ] !>,
>>
>> I think one should be named_n_rel, one exist_q_rel (not a string) and
>> the others should also probably be types, or if strings
>> "coord_c_implict_rel", "coord_c_null_rel", ...
>>
>> I don't know about norm, but I suspect he is also nouny.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Francis Bond <http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/fcbond/>
>> Division of Linguistics and Multilingual Studies
>> Nanyang Technological University
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>
> --
> Emily M. Bender
> Professor, Department of Linguistics
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Francis Bond <http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/fcbond/>
Division of Linguistics and Multilingual Studies
Nanyang Technological University