[developers] Difference between neg_rel/modifiers and modals
Ann Copestake
aac10 at cl.cam.ac.uk
Thu May 11 22:55:29 CEST 2017
I think /unexpectedly/ is scopal in at least some circumstances.
Specifically I would say the semantics of /unexpectedly/ is modal (in a
broad sense) - e.g., I could treat it in terms of possible worlds that
I'm considering at some timepoint t - if in only 1% of possible worlds
does P happen, and P actually happens by t' (where t' > t) then
unexpected(P). This is very crude and incomplete, but all I'm trying to
do here is convey the modal intuition.
Under this interpretation:
unexpected(not(win(Kim)))
means that at time t I thought not(win(Kim)) had 1% chance, but at t'
not(win(Kim)) has come to pass
this isn't the same as:
not(unexpected(win(Kim)))
which means it-is-not-the-case that [ at time t I thought win(Kim) had
1% chance and at t' win(Kim) has come to pass ] i.e., either I expected
Kim to win all along or Kim actually didn't win
> Also, in (3), unexpectedly could be a sentence-initial discourse
> adverb (scopal?) or an adverb extracted from lower in the clause...
As I remember it, the discussion about possible sentence situation
meaning is a semantic one rather than depending on whether there's
extraction or not.
All best,
Ann
On 11/05/2017 21:13, Emily M. Bender wrote:
> Thanks, Ann, for the quick reply! This connects to other things I've
> been
> curious about recently, including how we decide if something like
> "unexpectedly"
> is scopal or not. Also, in (3), unexpectedly could be a
> sentence-initial discourse
> adverb (scopal?) or an adverb extracted from lower in the clause...
>
> Emily
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:11 AM, Ann Copestake <aac10 at cl.cam.ac.uk
> <mailto:aac10 at cl.cam.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> I think the idea is to represent the contrast between:
>
> 1 We could unexpectedly close the window.
>
> either ability to close or actual closure is unexpected
>
> 2 We did not unexpectedly close the window.
>
> only the closure (if it had happened) would be unexpected.
>
> I don't think this is actually the best analysis. For instance,
> for me,
>
> 3 Unexpectedly we did not close the window.
>
> has another reading, which we are not capturing in MRS. Claudia
> Maiernborn would (perhaps) treat this as a sentential situation
> rather than an event modification and it may be that analysis is
> also available for 1 instead of the modal modification analysis.
>
> I'm afraid I don't have time to discuss this properly at the
> moment, though. I feel such a discussion has taken place, but
> don't remember the venue.
>
> All best,
>
> Ann
>
>
>
> On 10/05/2017 01:13, Emily M. Bender wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm curious about the different in analysis between neg_rel and
>> (other) scopal adverbial
>> modifiers on the one hand and modals on the other in the
>> treatment of the INDEX:
>>
>> In (1) and (2), the INDEX of the whole MRS points to the ARG0 of
>> _sleep_v_rel:
>>
>> (1) Kim doesn't sleep.
>> (2) Kim probably sleeps.
>>
>> ... where in (3) and (4) it points to the ARG0 of _can_v_rel and
>> _would_v_rel respectively:
>>
>> (3) Kim can sleep.
>> (4) Kim would sleep.
>>
>> I'm wondering what difference we intend to model here. (This
>> question comes up now
>> because we're looking at negation in my grammar engineering
>> class, and the out-of-the-box
>> analysis for languages which express negation with an auxiliary
>> has neg_rel falling
>> in the latter class.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Emily
>>
>>
>> --
>> Emily M. Bender
>> Professor, Department of Linguistics
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>
>
>
>
> --
> Emily M. Bender
> Professor, Department of Linguistics
> Check out CLMS on facebook! http://www.facebook.com/uwclma
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