[developers] on-line demo / simple sentence

[Ann Copestake]

is it just that `done' as an adjective is in the ERG as requiring a 
complement and should be allowed to appear without one?  as in "the 
chicken is done" etc  So a matter of a modification to a lexical entry.  
(I admit I am emailing without checking ...)

All best,

Ann


On 06/04/2018 23:21, paul at haleyai.com wrote:
>
> Thanks Olga and Woodley.
>
> I understood the passive but had not considered “X did him”!  The 
> others, to the best of my knowledge, leave X as the subject (not ARG2 
> or ARG3), no??
>
> You are correct regarding what I expected Woodley and it may not be in 
> the ERG.  The top parse for “he is done cooking” has him as the 
> subject (with some interesting variations).
>
> I understood the possibility that some unspecified agent was doing 
> something to him (as in one interpretation of “he is done cooking”) 
> and would have been impressed to see some “unknown” in the MRS to that 
> effect.
>
> At least I can make sense of this interpretation now, even though I 
> was hoping for something else.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Paul
>
> *From:*Woodley Packard <sweaglesw at sweaglesw.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 6, 2018 6:04 PM
> *To:* paul at haleyai.com
> *Cc:* developers <developers at delph-in.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [developers] on-line demo / simple sentence
>
> As Olga pointed out, these are passive readings.  They correspond to 
> something like:
>
> X did a good job.
>
> X did him.
>
> He is done( by X).
>
> X did his neighbor a favor.
>
> X did his homework a favor.
>
> ? X did his homework him.
>
> ?? He is done his homework( by X).
>
> I suspect the reading you are looking for instead involves a sense of 
> "done" conveying completion of an unspecified event, rather than a 
> passive variant of "do".  I’m not sure that sense is implemented in 
> the ERG, although I can’t speak for Dan for sure on that.  I see 
> parses with that sense when the event in question is an explicit 
> complement of the adjective "done", e.g. for:
>
> He is done eating.
>
> Best,
>
> -Woodley
>
>     On Apr 6, 2018, at 2:36 PM, <paul at haleyai.com
>     <mailto:paul at haleyai.com>> <paul at haleyai.com
>     <mailto:paul at haleyai.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I’m afraid I have a stupid question, but am a bit surprised at the
>     following results (the MRS, in particular, having “he” as ARG2 or
>     ARG3).
>
>     Does this look right to those of you who know more than I?  Can
>     you help me understand the subject of the “do” predication here,
>     if so?
>
>     Thank you,
>
>     Paul
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